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Making a Bacterial Camera - Interview with Chris Voigt

An interview from the BBC's The Naked Scientists radio program with Chris Voigt, a scientist at the University of California, San Francisco, and a complete transcript of the interview.

 

Chris S - What have you done?

Chris V - What we've done is to use genetic engineering to create a strain of bacteria that's able to respond to light. The way that we do this is…If you look in a pond, a dirty pond, you'll see a green sludge. That sludge sometimes is bacteria, and the reason it's green is because it is able to do photosynthesis. And so it has to be able to see light. So, we took a gene from that bacteria that’s in that pond and we modified it so that it works in a bacteria that normally is living in your gut, that doesn’t have to see light. (E. coli?) That’s right, E. coli. By bringing in this gene and doing a couple other modifications to the genome of E. coli, we made it so that individual E. coli cells are able to see light.

Chris S - When you shine a light on them, what does it do to the bacteria?

Chris V - It has a special type of protein, which is a molecule, much of the bacteria is made of protein, and this protein is on the surface of the bacterium. It's special in that it has a chemical that, when light is shined onto that chemical, then it changes the shape of the protein. This change in shape of the protein is recognized by the bacteria, and this leads to turning on a gene. And so in this way, you can couple shining light on the bacteria to the activation of a gene.

Chris S - And what sort of things have you made it activate? In your paper that you published this week, you actually made your bacteria change colour. What else could you do?

Chris V - You could imagine using this for a wide range of applications. For example, in thinking about constructing complex materials—it’s very hard to work with proteins, just from a chemistry perspective—and it would be useful if you were able to print proteins with a very high resolution. We are thinking about using this system in order to have individual bacteria turn on the production of proteins that maybe produce a particular type of material like spider silk, or possibly do some sort of interesting reaction.

Chris S - If you bought these bacteria as a digital camera in the shops, what number of megapixels would it say on the box?

Chris V - If it is able to turn on individual bacteria, it would be about 100 megapixels.

Chris S - So that's incredibly tiny resolution you can work at. You can make really, really fine structures.

Chris V – Exactly, so each bacteria is like a pixel on a computer screen.

Kat - Are these bacteria dangerous at all?

Chris V - No, they're completely harmless. What we're using is known as a lab strain of E. coli. This differs from natural strains in that almost 25% of its genome is missing. Specifically, this strain of bacteria is used frequently in the lab because it's a very safe strain.

Kat – So it’s had all the bad stuff taken out of it.

Chris V – Everything’s been removed, everything that’s sort of unknown or bad has been removed.